LLLL.com Price Guide
The mid-April 2008 LLLL.com Price Guide
Data derived from TDVR.com, the largest LLLL.com database. Numbers in parentheses reflect Apr 05, 2008 statistics. Current prices reflect the results of the 430 most recent reported LLLL.com sales within the Apr 06, 2008 through Apr 18, 2008 timeframe.
Minimum Wholesale : $33.00 ($37.00) -> 11%
10th percentile: $41.00 ($45.00) -> 9%
25th percentile: $51.00 ($61.00) -> 16%
Median: $85.00 ($103.00) -> 17%
75th percentile: $392.00 ($388.00) -> 1%
90th percentile*: $1010.00 ($995.00) -> 2%
Prices were unchanged in the pronounceable and higher quality LLLL.com segments over the last 13 days. Prices on the lower end continue to plummet with the hardest hit segment this time being the 25th through 50th percentile (typically double and lower grade triple premiums). As many of you know, I’m a big fan of triple premiums and higher grade LLLL.coms with bad letters in general. Avoiding this market isn’t necessary – but a change of strategy from buying at a certain price to buying based on the quality of the letters (more on this will be explained later this week) is necessary.
* Quad Premiums and pronounceables remained relatively stable in price over the last couple weeks. Min wholesale on quad premiums is approximately $330, down from $350 reported in the previous price guide. CVCVs continue to see appreciation on the low end, while the upper end seems to have temporarily stabilized, as have prices on rares and most other pronounceables.
Approximate Reseller Price By LLLL.com Segment:
** Please use these prices only as a reference. They are meant to reflect minimum, not maximum prices one should expect to pay in the process of acquiring a particular type of LLLL.com. Consider the below prices nothing more than a “Buyer’s Guide” to LLLL.com domaining. Prices reported below are intended to illustrate what a typical LLLL.com of a particular type would go for on a typical day at your typical venue… They are not meant to represent what double letter, triple letter, CVCV, VCVC, CVVC, VCCV, other pronounceables, meaningful acronym, or real word LLLL.coms may go for. Always use common sense 
Anti-premium: $35
Single Premium: $35
Double Premium: $40
Triple Premiums
$45 with Q
$50 with X
$55 with Z
$65 with Y
$70 with J
$85 with V
$90 with K
$120 with U
$140 with W
Quad Premiums: $330-$1000+ depending on the letters. Quad premiums containing an F or an H tend to report the lowest selling prices. Strong letters include A, S, E.
Examples of what would usually fetch < $400 :
Likely contains: F, G, H
Likely does not contain any: A, S
Likely does not contain any repeat letters or double letters.
AAAB, BAAA, AABB, and pronounceable quad premiums are noticeably absent from the under $500 group, pretty much without exceptions. Strong double repeating starting letters (such as A or S) generally lead to sales above $600.
Factors influencing LLLL.com valuations include the letter quality, brandability, pronounceability, age, frequency, and traffic. The 2 strongest premium letters are A and S. Other higher quality premium letters include E, M, D, I, T, O. The three weakest selling quad premium letters are F, G, and H. Letter position is also important. Certain letters perform better in certain positions than others (although the above rule holds on average across all letter patterns). C,I,L make stronger ending letters than they typically are elsewhere in an LLLL.com. A and O are strong in either the starting or ending position and S is stronger in the starting position. This is by no means an exhaustive list, merely examples of letters which perform better in particular positions.
Quad Premiums containing 3 of the same letters (eg: SOOO.com, MMMQ.com) tend to sell at a significant premium, regardless of the quality the letters are. Only 4 sales of quad premium triple letters occured in the last 2 weeks, 1 (FFFN.com) sold for $850 and the other 3 sold for $1437, $2250, and $2500. It’s fairly safe to say all quad premium triple letter LLLL.coms will fetch $1XXX at auction (FFFN, being 3 times the second weakest premium letter is more of an exception than the rule). As a whole, (including non-premiums), triple repeats are generally ~ $500-$3000+ depending on whether the triple letter LLLL.com contains bad letters, receives traffic, is aged, has numerous potential endusers, desirability as a collectible,… The names are commonly referred to as AAAB and BAAA, reflecting that they contain 2 different letters, where A and B represent 2 different premium letters from the set of 17 premium letters (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T). When the triple letter pattern is broken up (eg. ABAA, AABA), we tend to see prices in the $300-$1200 range (depending on if premium or not, as well as factors mentioned above). Triple repeat letters containing at least 1 bad letter tend to sell for $500-$1500. AABB type LLLL.coms tend to sell for between $500-$2000+, with $500 being the floor for combinations containing 2 bad letters (eg. XXQQ.com) and $1000+ being what all premium conbinations (eg. TTII.com) would typically fetch. Palindromes (ABBA type LLLL.coms) tend to sell for approximately $300+, with premium combinations extremely difficult to obtain under $800 and frequently sell for $1XXX. Upon doing some research, I’ve been able to conclude that AABB > AAAB/BAAA > ABBA for quad premium specimens. For other LLLL.coms, the pattern is typically AAAB/BAAA > AABB > ABBA. Important to note that in general AABB > ABBA.
10th percentile:
vzjz.com $37.00 04/10/08 SnapNames
bqys.com $37.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
PNZQ.com $37.00 04/15/2008 eBay
vxbz.com $37.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
kvyv.com $38.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
xfqr.com $38.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
qwza.com $39.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
pxkg.com $39.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
ptjv.com $39.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
lwxw.com $39.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
dzws.com $40.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
jjqr.com $40.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
gzjv.com $40.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
thqu.com $40.00 04/06/08 Snapnames
qayh.com $40.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
ckqn.com $40.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
klhq.com $40.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
yfuw.com $40.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
VPYW.com $40.00 04/10/08 eBay
uvxd.com $40.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
wpjz.com $41.00 04/06/08 Snapnames
XJQV.com $41.00 04/17/2008 eBay
xdnk.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
zkqa.com $41.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
thzv.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
xmmq.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
zxtf.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
jrwg.com $41.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
gwsx.com $41.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
zthz.com $41.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
zgfv.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
yfkm.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
qcpk.com $41.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
rqby.com $41.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
qdru.com $42.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
mzgh.com $42.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
kuln.com $42.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
zfwa.com $42.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
gkiy.com $42.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
dzvb.com $42.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
skzw.com $43.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
qshz.com $43.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
zkvx.com $43.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
KGQK.com $43.00 04/15/2008 eBay
MQRW.com $43.20 04/15/2008 eBay
zcfl.com $44.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
wmsz.com $44.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
qgqd.com $44.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
sxrh.com $44.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
Vctq.com $44.99 04/12/08 eBay
jdzk.com $45.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
pzrl.com $45.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
zvws.com $45.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
Names at the 10th percentile tend to have at least 1 bad letter and 1-2 semi-premiums.
25th percentile:
zodq.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
yrjy.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
rqpa.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
nqvt.com $46.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
hmpx.com $46.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
qjac.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
rqat.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
wxqu.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
srbj.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
qvvj.com $46.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
dqge.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
kvmw.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
wmzg.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
wrqz.com $46.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
zhqa.com $46.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
kyjv.com $46.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
vyeh.com $46.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
imqb.com $47.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
wllq.com $47.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
lzxg.com $49.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
xyqg.com $49.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
ljkq.com $49.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
nczw.com $49.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
lxkm.com $49.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
RTFZ.com $49.10 04/10/08 eBay
xvdv.com $50.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
qvvx.com $50.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
lqyn.com $50.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
mhmq.com $50.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
gdxr.com $50.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
OUNQ.COM $50.00 04/11/08 Namepros Live Auction
qsgr.com $50.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
dqcf.com $50.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
rqoc.com $51.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
ZLSE.com $51.00 04/10/08 eBay
fkxe.com $51.00 04/10/08 TDNAM
xnct.com $51.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
yjlu.com $51.00 04/11/08 TDNAM
zkns.com $51.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
kjsh.com $53.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
gqhr.com $54.00 04/11/08 TDNAM
grzr.com $55.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
qspg.com $55.00 04/10/08 SnapNames
xbdn.com $55.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
vdjp.com $55.00 04/06/08 Snapnames
hcxn.com $55.00 04/10/08 SnapNames
OPRZ.com $55.00 04/10/08 eBay
RZGS.com $55.55 04/15/2008 eBay
jtnu.com $56.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
hovj.com $57.00 04/07/08 TDNAM
psvw.com $57.00 04/07/08 Snapnames
iwyw.com $57.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
Names at the 25th percentile tend to have 1 bad letter and 1 semi-premium, or 2 semi-premium letters.
Median:
pztm.com $80.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
YOYF.com $80.00 04/11/08 Sedo
sozf.com $80.00 04/06/08 Namejet
wsvt.com $80.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
vagf.com $80.00 04/15/2008 SnapNames
mtje.com $80.00 04/15/2008 TDNAM
xuir.com $80.00 04/10/08 Sedo
ujfm.com $80.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
zwgq.com $80.00 04/10/08 NameJet
wkuc.com $81.00 04/10/08 TDNAM
HCRK.com $81.00 04/08/08 eBay
idxo.com $81.00 04/16/2008 NameJet
sqrz.com $83.00 04/07/08 TDNAM
eulj.COM $83.00 04/17/2008 TDNAM
hwiu.com $84.00 04/16/2008 SnapNames
uusy.com $84.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
mefz.com $84.00 04/10/08 TDNAM
wkzz.com $85.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
hxbn.com $85.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
osqe.com $85.00 04/13/2008 SnapNames
vvgl.com $85.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
zcir.com $85.00 04/08/08 TDNAM
avrf.com $85.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
cqpn.com $85.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
gocw.com $86.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
aowf.com $86.00 04/14/2008 TDNAM
sfiv.com $86.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
xrul.COM $87.00 04/17/2008 TDNAM
JWLL.com $89.00 04/17/2008 NamePros
pgtu.com $90.00 04/09/08 Snapnames
izuj.com $91.00 04/15/2008 Sedo
nsmk.com $92.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
ivhn.com $92.00 04/10/08 TDNAM
NCAX.com $93.00 04/10/08 eBay
qcrd.com $94.00 04/07/08 TDNAM
xjcf.com $95.00 04/09/08 TDNAM
Names at the 50th percentile tend to have a maximum of 2 semi-premiums or 1 bad letter and 1 semi-premium. They often have only 1 bad (or semi-premium) letter and may include repeat letters.
75th percentile:
uwai.com $362.00 04/10/08 Namejet
LNAF.com $370.00 04/09/08 Sedo
hcnl.com $371.00 04/14/2008 NameJet
bgdo.com $379.00 04/10/08 SnapNames
pgmn.com $381.00 04/12/08 Snapnames
pgmn.com $381.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
FHOR.com $389.00 04/09/08 Sedo
aldb.com $390.00 04/12/08 NameJet
eweh.com $393.00 04/06/08 Sedo
huhy.com $400.00 04/11/08 Snapnames
HCNL.com $400.00 04/06/08 NameJet
dtao.com $400.00 04/15/2008 Sedo
XEGI.com $400.00 04/11/08 Namepros Live Auction
lmae.com $400.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
bdto.com $401.00 04/08/08 SnapNames
pyou.com $401.00 04/12/08 SnapNames
ticd.com $402.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
OUFI.com $407.00 04/09/08 Sedo
IKNU.com $408.46 04/08/08 Sedo
LBCB.com $410.00 04/08/08 Sedo
NTDL.com $411.00 04/06/08 NameJet
bgro.com $412.00 04/14/2008 SnapNames
FMOM.com $415.00 04/10/08 Sedo
Names at the 75th percentile generally contain a maximum of 1 bad letter and often include only 1 semi-premium. Double letter and double repeat letter combinations (eg. ETTW.com) are also commonly found at this percentile. Low grade pronounceables (including VCVC) sometimes find their way into this category, as do lower quality quad premiums.
90+ percentile:
swnb.com $,1510.00
goxa.com $1,520.00 04/18/2008 Sedo
rihu.com $1,566.00 04/17/2008 Sedo
Xaxo.com $1,600.00 04/14/2008 Namejet
fied.com $1,633.00 04/17/2008 Namejet
pohe.com $1,862.00 04/16/2008 Sedo
hods.com $1,900.00 04/13/2008 NameJet
Lidy.com $1,950.00 04/17/2008 DomainMagnate.com
mtra.com $1,950.00 04/14/2008 NameJet
hscf.com $2,000.00 04/09/08 Afternic
rivi.com $2,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
EPMS.com $2,099.00 04/06/08 NameJet
sooo.com $2,250.00 04/12/08 Sedo
ilsi.com $2,300.00 04/09/08 Afternic
alaa.com $2,300.00 04/17/2008 Namejet
nool.com $2,389.00 04/09/08 Sedo
pzza.com $2,499.00 04/10/08 Namejet
TTII.com $2,500.00 04/16/2008 eBay
dcgi.com $2,500.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
ONNN.com $2,500.00 04/18/2008 Namepros
conx.com $2,600.00 04/12/08 NameJet
tosu.com $2,600.00 04/16/2008 NameJet
pevo.com $2,700.00 04/16/2008 Sedo
fehu.com $3,000.00 04/15/2008 Sedo
pldn.com $3,075.00 04/09/08 Afternic
bkyn.com $3,500.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
ledu.com $4,002.00 04/09/08 Sedo
msdb.com $4,200.00 04/09/08 Afternic
geci.com $4,302.00 04/09/08 NameJet
ipex.com $5,000.00 04/07/08 NameJet
boso.com $5,100.00 04/09/08 eBay
UKOO.com $6,500.00 04/08/08 Sedo
Swin.COM $7,000.00 04/17/2008 Afternic
imls.com $7,500.00 04/16/2008 NameJet
phli.com $8,600.00 04/06/08 Sedo
MDPI.com $9,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
UDVD.com $15,000.00 04/09/08 HuntingMoon.com
popa.com $15,270.00 04/11/08 Sedo
Reos.com $25,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
Names at the 90+ percentile generally consist of quad premiums, VCVCs, CVCVs, other pronounceables, dictionary words, and LLLL.coms having AAAB, BAAA, ABAA, AABA, AABB, and ABBA patterns. Enduser sales of lower + higher quality LLLL.coms are becoming increasingly common at this percentile.
Pronounceable Performance
Documented below are the sales of VCVC/CVCV reported since the last price guide. VCCV/CVVC will be covered in May.
CVCV:
popa.com $15,270.00 04/11/08 Sedo
boso.com $5,100.00 04/09/08 eBay
geci.com $4,302.00 04/09/08 NameJet
ledu.com $4,002.00 04/09/08 Sedo
fehu.com $3,000.00 04/15/2008 Sedo
pevo.com $2,700.00 04/16/2008 Sedo
tosu.com $2,600.00 04/16/2008 NameJet
rivi.com $2,000.00 04/16/2008 Afternic
Xaxo.com $1,600.00 04/14/2008 Namejet
goxa.com $1,520.00 04/18/2008 Sedo
gahe.com $1,112.00 04/17/2008 Sedo
QESU.com $631.00 04/11/08 Sedo
qome.com $571.00 04/18/2008 Sedo
XEGI.com $400.00 04/11/08 Namepros Live Auction
VCVC:
ipex.com $5,000.00 04/07/08 NameJet
OSOC.com $499.00 04/06/08 NameJet (it deserves to be mentioned, quad premium VCVCs generally go for much, much more. This sale is NOT the norm)
EDIJ.com $337.76 04/08/08 Sedo
OQOT.com $285.00 04/08/08 Sedo
urav.com $210.00 04/17/2008 SnapNames
uqoz.com $110.00 04/12/08 Sedo
izuj.com $91.00 04/15/2008 Sedo
End of guide.
Release date: Apr 18, 2008.
Next release on: May 08, 2008.
Thanks man. I am going to use this site a lot.
Thanks Ty!
The January Price Guide should be out within 12 hours.
Thanks for this very valuable information. I appreciate your time in this!
Your most welcome John!
All the best on winning the UUOU.com auction!
great job!
Wow Reece, I love your January release!!! What do you think of CVVC and VCCV?
btw the LLLL sales are decrease in this two days, maybe the LLLL owners want to hold them a little
Thanks Antonio!
I think both pronounceable CVVC and VCCV have a very strong future. The market seems to have eased off a bit lately on unpronounceable CVVCs and VCCVs. Pronounceable CVVCs and VCCVs are found quite often in the $200+ range.
As for decreased sales — I think you’re right. I took all 1700 of my LLLL.coms off the market. I only have 1 LLLL.com on auction now and waiting for payment on 21 others. But the rest are going away for awhile!
Thats quite some analysis you have going there Reece! Keep up the good work! Don’t forget i’ll be doing a premium LLLL.net scan towards the end of the month to see what’s happening in that area of the market too!
Rich
Quadletterdomains.com
Thanks Rich!
I’m glad you’re taking care of LLLL.net… I was trying to do them both early on and it was just too time consuming… Spent a good 20 hours developing this price guide, couldn’t imagine scanning through 80k LLLL.nets after that
are the letter values entirely independent of pronouceability ?
what about pronounceable names with bad letters?
good to see you working so hard on your site, what city are you in ?
Hi Ian,
Thanks for stopping by
I’m from Winnipeg, Manitoba. It’s a nice little city just north of Minnesota.
I left pronounceable names of the non-CVCV and non-VCVC category under whatever category they’d typically be listed under (example: single premium, double premium, triple premium,…).
Most of the ones I’d consider pronounceable fell into the double or triple premium categories. I opted not to list them separately because LLLL.com pronounceability outside of CVCVs and VCVCs is somewhat subjective and I wanted to keep this guide as far away from my personal opinion as possible. In keeping it strictly based on fact, I felt the best way to maintain accuracy was to keep as many names as possible under their default categories unless they’re names that would significantly skew results (eg. XIAN.com @ $40,000).
Pronounceability is not only based on personal opinion but also on language, hence my decision to not separate them from the main results.
Excellent Analysis! What a Job & Well Done!
That’s very nice,
ill be back around feb 8th for the next release.
Seriously Reece… Amazing. Simply Amazing. You’ve done an amazing job with this blog.
You mentioned on another blog about LLLL arbitrage. What the hell is that?
Hey mate, my old msn got hacked now I dont know your email
I found myself in a financial stump and need to sell these names fast, the LLLL.com’s…I’m willing to sell them for a loss even. I still have 440 of them so please contact me:
MSN or email: freestyler@live.ca
Thanks Sammy!
Please see the http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/what-the-hell-is-llllcom-arbitrage/ for an answer to your question
It’s a very good question for which I think an answer will benefit many readers.
Hi 9MM,
I’m pretty busy today. I’ll get back to you tomorrow on those LLLL.coms. I’m sorry to hear about your financial situation and can only hope it improves from here on. I’ll do my part and buy a few. I can recommend you to a few of my LLLL.com contacts if you’d like.
Me being one
Iv’e added you to my MSN 9MM I may be able to help out.
Reece can you PM me your email address over at NP?
Rich
Quadletterdomains.com
Sure thing Rich
Thanks for the add Rich
Hopefully we can work something out…Hopefully you won’t be too busy to drop me an e-mail reece 
The 443 that are left, quite a few have your name on them.
Please contact me on MSN sometime this morning: freestyler@live.ca of course
not hacked yet! hooray lol
Starting work in just over an hour. Have a 16 hour shift today…
Don’t know why I do it when I make more domaining then I do at my job…
Ah well,
Good to get out meet people and get some exercise — all things I probably wouldn’t be doing if I was domaining 24/7
Lol that’s my life, getting fat haha now I wan’t out =P
Talk on MSN in 24 hours hopefully
Thank you!
reece your crazy.
hey, can i talk to you on msn now? add me freestyler@live.ca
This is great source for any LLLL.com invester like me. Thanks for your time reece. Great work
Hey Reece,
Awesome work. Any advice on what to do with 100+ LLLL collection? Sell, or keep it for 5 years?
Keep them!
100 or so LLLL.coms is a reasonable enough size that renewal fees should be the least of your concern. Those 100 LLLL.coms will most likely buy you a brand new car 5 years from now.
Hello Again Reese,
I was bored tonight and figured out the average price for a LLLL.com in the last 700 auctions………drum roll………
$165
Hey Jeremy
Pretty incredible, isn’t it? We’ve progressed a long ways in the last couple years… From LLLL.coms being ridiculed to talk of a special section on Namepros for LLLL.coms. From people saying buying anything but premium LLLL.coms was a waste of money, to people paying sometimes over $100 for non-premium LLLL.coms…
Remember the days when people talked about “if” there’d be a buyout? Hard to imagine that was barely over 2 months ago…
My, have we ever come a long ways…
Hey Reece, good work! From your analysis we can really see the increase in LLLL.com values. I especially like the fact that the minimum wholesale is up 114%! Thats good news all round! Lets hope and anticipate further big increases next month!
Rich
QuadLetterDomains.com
Reece, this guide is impressive! You’ve done a very good work with this guide, thanks!
Antonio,
http://tdvr.com
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prices on lower quality LLLL.coms were in desperate need of a revision! I took advantage of the fact I saw a huge increase coming and picked up almost 300 low quality LLLL.coms for $14-$16 back in December and managed to flip everything in bulk sales from $28-$35 per. No complaints here
Quad Premiums will be the big winner over the next 6-8 weeks imho. They didn’t increase all that much this month and triple premiums gained alot of ground on them… Expect a min wholesale of $300+ on quad premiums by March.
Just corrected 1 typo in the price guide — the first percentage $33 from $14 should be 136%, not 114%. As if doubling in 1 month wasn’t enough
Great data, happy I found this post
Does that mean prices for domains in 90th percentile - quad premiums went down? That can’t be true. Also more examples would be great!
What about the letter K? Is that considered a premium letter as well for the purposes of this guide? I didn’t see it in the Triple Premium Min Wholesales section.
Hi Michael,
Quad premiums were sold much less frequently this month than last month, so while the 90th percentile previously characterized them well last month, they’d be sitting more around the 95th percentile this month. Min wholesale on quad premium LLLL.coms was up 25% to $250 from $200 in December.
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Hi Chris,
Triple Premiums + K are about $100 per. Thanks for reminding me to include K in the analysis. Adding it to the post right now
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Yunusi, Спасибо
Excellent guide. Thank you very, very much. I was having trouble pricing my LLLL portfolio with all the recent rush.. Thanks again.
You’re welcome BW!
Be sure to check back on February 8th for the February LLLL.com price guide
I’ll publish another guide in mid-February if prices increase as fast as they did in January (for new readers, this is the second guide published within 1 month).
Your the best Reece
Very nice analysis, but a dip in quad premiums?
Not when you’re buying
Hi mwzd,
Thanks for stopping by
I’m indeed buying a whole load of quad premium LLLL.coms and they most certainly aren’t going anywhere but up in price!
In the fine printed (listed at the top under ** ) I explained that very few quad premium sales happened in January in comparison to in december and so it wasn’t fair to judge quad premiums based on how the 90th percentile performed, as it was in December. Min quad premium wholesale today is about $250 with $300 being relatively easy to achieve on any quad premium LLLL.com.
I am eagerly waiting for the next price update. I am hoping the min price will reach $40 in first week of Feb. I am using this site as a refrenece. thanks
Thanks! Another price rise!
Thanks!
Reece, thanks alot for the guide…I love to see prices going up!
How would you value a triple premium pronouncable right now?
Ben
I like the price guide and the website, good job!
Thanks, for all your efforts, this guide is really appreciated.
I’ve got one question for the owner of this site if that’s okay… If a 4-letter .com contains 3 premium letters and 1 semi-premium and the first 3 letters form very often used english word and the last word is the semi-premium one. How much would you appraise that one?
Thank you very much!
Lakko,
It’s impossible to accurately appraise any name without knowing what the name is. If you don’t want it indexed into say, Google, a good alternative is to list the name like this: LLLL(.)com or LLLL,com. If you want to shield it from even domainers (other than those on this site), list it as something like this: L;L#L%L. If you’d like a private appraisal, leave a comment with your email address. I’ll get back to you but won’t publish your comment (all comments are moderated before being posted, so I’ll reply to you by email and delete your post here).
hFAN.com recently sold for $4,000 USD in example… Many LLLL.coms composed of a 3 letter word are very valuable and in the hands of endusers already (examples: eBay, uBid, Digg).
How come in the paragraph on the homepage you said that quad premiums have not really gone up but in the price guide you say “The real movers and shakers over the last week have been quad premiums, having appreciated a whopping 40% to $350 from their min wholesale of $250 on January 24th.”. I think this is cut and pasted from last week guides. Also did you update the triple premium prices that you said went up? It looks to me that all you updated was the numbers in 10% percentile, median, 75 percentile, ect. Maybe I misunderstood where you were going with this guide.
Hi Unclewalter,
Thanks for catching my mistake — I forgot to delete out last week’s results (now done).
The bottom half should always remain the same (the part starting after the current quad premium prices). The remaining half of the price guide is just an explanation of how prices are calculated and what kind of names can be found at each percentile. These things don’t change each week (or even each month), so this part of the guide will rarely (if ever) be updated.
What was updated was the percentiles (as stated in your post) and the “Approximate Reseller Price By LLLL.com Segment”. We have to remember that the last price guide was released all of 1 week ago, so price jumps aren’t all that big.
Last week’s prices (that have since changed) in triple premiums were:
J = $90 (now $100+)
V = $130 (now $140+)
U/W = $150+ (now $160+)
Quad premiums increased from $350-$1000 to $400-1000, a respectable increase, but nothing like what we saw last week.
The differences are there, but they’re not very large and could be easily overlooked. As stated on the homepage, the quad premium LLLL.net buyout was largely responsible for the modest price increase we saw this week in comparison to previous weeks. I expect the price increases to be more noticeable in future weeks.
75th and Median seem to be going up nicely, just around where my money is at. Thanks for the very useful Price Guide Reece
Man. I don’t know what market goes up 7% minimum every week!!!
I do: LLLL.coms hehe
Difficult to read white on black. Is there an option to change colors to read easily ?
Thank you
um its the 18th Where is the next release ?
Hi Optophobia,
It’s still in the works. It will be MUCH more detailed than the last release and will include a breakdown of every single sale since the November 2nd buyout.
So, since all the prices increased, but the median dropped. Does this mean that there are a bigger percentage of lesser quality domains being sold?
Good question unclewalter.
When I first looked at the data without analyzing it mathematically, I was under the impression that everything in the 25th through 75th percentile range had dropped..
What seems to be happening is that buyers are discriminating less and less between triple premiums, double premiums, anti-premiums,… In short, buyers want to own LLLL.coms, rather than a particular type of LLLL.com (other than the obviously superior quad premium, CVCV, VCVC, triple letter…).
This is largely the bahaviour we see with LLL.coms and would perhaps be a sign of good things to come for holders of lower quality LLLL.coms should it hold true here. There’s very little difference in value between a double premium LLL.com, single premium LLL.com, and even an LLL.com composed entirely of 3 bad letters. The only major difference occurs when the LLL.com is composed of 3 premium letters. It looks like we’re going down the same road here, with an entry fee (min wholesale) which is rapidly rising.
Tripe premiums with Z look like a real bargain at these prices. Where can I find some?
Looks like triple premiums are heating up again. 20%-100% above guide. It’s starting to look like anything below $100 is a good deal with all of the Q’s and X’s flying off the shelves.
XMHD.com sold for $192.50
UEBR.com sold for $162.50
WMVN.com sold for $167.50
XHNU.com sold for $112.50
RQER.com sold for $112.50
KXKQ.com sold for $102.50
Hi, very useful information. But there is a spelling mistake/typo error. In the third line you mentioned as “LLL.com” instead of “LLLL.com”. This could confuse newbies. Thanks for your efforts though
Hi Rachel,
Thanks for catching that!
Still waiting for the next update !!!
Up Up and Up again, how about LLLL.net?
great job
Hi Poeps,
The minimum wholesale on quad premium LLLL.nets appears to be about $9 at the moment. There aren’t all that many people selling (most expect them to go higher) at the moment, so it’s really hard to draw a clear line, but I would expect that quad premium LLLL.nets listed under $9 would sell extremely fast. Not a bad ROI for those who bought in big in early February
Unlike tdvr.com, there isn’t really much in the way of a site that tracks all LLLL.net sales that occur. As prices become easier to track and more consistent, I might track them myself to help with an LLLL.net price guide should nobody else rise to the challenge.
thanks Reece for the latest update. I had been waiting for this.
Wow…so now I feel really great that I was able to get a few LLLL.coms for $40 each just the other day.
Weird that jhiy is 10th percentile while druy is 90th.
I’d club them together as pronounceable domains?
Both are double premiums ending in Y, in fact jhiy is single syllable and druy is not.Or am i missing something here?
Druy appears to be a fairly popular last name. It may also be a typo of dry, granted the u is positioned to the right of the y on the keyboard, although I’m not sure how common of a typo it would be…
Druy was registered back in 2003, so it also has age working on it’s side. From an American pronounciation perspective, Druy is more pronounceable than Jhiy.
Your observations make a lot of sense.
Age helps and I never considered the typo angle.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, helps me understand the market better.
Excellent work once again Reece!
Rich
Quad Letter Domains
thanks again
There are a significant number of sales in CVCV, VCCV, CVVC recently. I suggest next version fo your guide can have an analysis on this sector, eg how anti-prem will affect the valuation of such domains, thanks!
What do you of the value of 4 letter .com’s w/dashes. ie 4–m.com or i-rq.com?
*that should be 4–m.com (four dash dash M).com
Hi Jason,
I’m honestly not sure of the market value on C - - C type domains. I’ll try and do some research on it over the next few days and will report back on my findings.
William — I’ll try and add a bit of data on the pronounceable segments. I find them very difficult to appraise in comparison to ordinary LLLL.cms because it’s often difficult to determine enduser sales from domainer purchases. I might just include all reported pronounceable sales and allow people to draw their own conclusions. Moving forward, I hope to have pronounceables covered in the May version of the price guide.
Well I’m hoping you’re right about pronounceable LLLL.com prices rising. Just sent miyd.com to sedo auction, cheap, in fact lower than the min. wholesale reseller price. Considering Sedo has a decent cross section of end users - should be interesting to see where it ends at. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
Samit, I really am hoping it turns out well!
Sedo has been seeing some extremely strong pronounceable sales lately, so hopefully it catches an end user’s eye
Good stuff there, thanks for the updates Reece!
Seems like a good time to buy again
Just noticed a slight mistake, you have (iwizi.com $355.00 03/29/2008 Sedo) including in the list, is that iwiz.com or should that not be there at all?
Michael, it sure does look like a great time to buy
Some of the old timers think the lower end LLLL.coms will keep crashing… Personally, I think now is likely one of the last great buying opportunities we’ll have for awhile.
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Stephen, thanks for catching that mistake
Antonio does a great job with TDVR.com and I do try to go over everything myself and make sure no mistakes arise… Nevertheless, this one slipped by me. That’s one great thing about evaluating prices at quartiles or percentages, rather than “averages”. We’d have to make alot of mistakes to distort the findings whatsoever.
Nice guide man!
awaiting the next guide anxiously
These prices seem as though they are domainers are paying for quads. What is the public paying for names?
Hi BT,
Indeed the large majority of reported sales (and indeed this guide itself) are reflective of what domainers will pay — not the general public.
It’s hard to say what the general public will pay for a particular quad (or any LLLL.com for that matter). It may take years for certain LLLL.coms to receive enduser offers and others receive them pretty much monthly… All comes down to what the name means to them (the general public) in the end.