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New Price Guide almost ready for release…

I just wanted to apologize to everyone for the major delay in the release of the May price guide. This week has been…

Frankly, I don’t know what to call a week where you sell 40k plus worth of domains, making a 5 figure profit in the process and still aren’t satisfied because so much you intended on getting done just keeps on falling behind. Ironic, perhaps?

BQB has been coming along better than I could ever have expected this early in it’s release, I’ve been given the moderator position of the Short Domains forum on Namepros, and I have so many people wanting me to broker and purchase their domains lately that I could quite literally make a living just off reading my email… It’s great, yet disappointing at the same time when you aren’t finding the time to get other things done — like sleep or even enjoy life for that matter when you’re being called on 24/7. I might have to get myself a secretary, because this is getting ridiculous and I want to get a 4 Letter Noob update out soon…

Anyway, thanks for sticking by me guys, I really appreciate not having a lot of “Hurry the $%^& up comments” and I hope to have it done within 1-2 days.

New Price Guide will be out May 9th.

My apologies for the delay — BQB.com, my no commission domain name marketplace has received a ton of exposure over the last day thanks to some great bloggers like Michael Goldman of Domain Magnate and Richard from Quad Letter Domains and it’s caused me to delay the price guide by a day as I make sure everyone asking questions and submitting applications gets answers and approvals. Lorenzo from ItalianDragon.com has also graciously offered his support. I must also thank everyone over at Namepros helping “spread the word” by listing BQB in their sigs.

Thanks everyone! Your support is greatly appreciated! :)

DATO.com NO RESERVE on Sedo!

Interested? Place a bid on Sedo . DATO.com is without a doubt the strongest 4 letter .com I’ve ever had the privilege of owning. Michael Goldman, author of  Domain Magnate brokered the purchase for me and is a 50% stakeholder in the domain, as am I.  LLLL.coms have been really good to us both over the last year and I can only hope they continue to be in this auction which we’ve listed at no reserve and considerably under what our acquisition costs were. We’re confident in the LLLL.com domainer market and in Sedo’s ability to produce outstanding results on uber-premium LLLL.coms like DATO.

Wish us luck! :)

The Sedo description follows below for anyone who’d like to read a bit more about DATO:

DATO means Data in Spanish, but to the hundreds of possible endusers around the world, DATO is so much more than a Spanish dictionary word. Can you say 80 million + Google results? How about literally hundreds of daily Wordtracker results which include the word “dato” in them?

DataRecovery.com recently sold for $1.7 MILLION dollars! Spanish is the MOST POPULAR foreign language in the United States and ranks THIRD Worldwide in Internet users.

We ask you this… What would Data.com go for? Pause. Think about that for a sec…
Then tell me how Dato.com isn’t one of not only the greatest spanish generics auctioned this year, but one of the greatest generics period. Worldwide Internet penetration continues to increase… This is a domain which will forever have value, forever be recognize as a Tier 1 Spanish domain, and continue to increase in value for many, many years to come.

Need I really say more? If I haven’t sold you on DATO yet, I don’t think you’ve been listening — or you clearly don’t understand THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY IN THIS CENTURY, which is premium foreign language domain names.

DATO is an incredibly strong CVCV that flows off the tongue like any True CVCV should. DATO is being offered to you with NO RESERVE. In short, this domain WILL SELL, regardless of what’s offered. Arguably The Strongest CVCV offered on Sedo EVER.

Compare this to VINO (wine in Italian) which received offers of $60,000 and DID NOT MEET THE RESERVE. We’re giving you a once in a lifetime chance to pick up a Tier 1 premium for pennies on the dollar… There might never be an opportunity like this again!

Compare to domains like:

POPA.com sold on Sedo $15000+
ZOYO.om sold on Sedo 6000EUR ($9000+)

… and I think you’ll feel as confident as me in saying that this is a 6 figure domain any day of the week to a Spanish enduser.

What is My LLLL.com Worth?

In an attempt to cut down on the number of LLLL.com appraisals we see posted in the Appraisal Section on Namepros, this question was recently asked by Ramakazi. 4 Letter Noob is quoted in his thread, so I felt obliged to reply on how I believe the data made available on 4 Letter Noob in the LLLL.com Price Guide is best used.

The LLLL.com price guide (on 4 Letter Noob) is mainly focussed on allowing someone to quickly estimate the value of a large number of LLLL.coms in a reseller environment. That’s also a major reason why I stay away from providing much in the way of details on pronounceables — prices can vary so much on these that I really wouldn’t want it on my conscience that someone sold out for thousands too cheap or bought for thousands too much…

If you had 100 non-pronounceable triple premiums + X and resold in a reseller environment, what’s reported on my blog (4 Letter Noob) would almost guaranteed be within +/- 30% (likely much closer on the ”under the posted min wholesales” side) of what you obtain. On a single LLLL.com however, my blog (or any appraisal, really) is highly inaccurate — we just can’t account for things like endusers or why a certain domain may go for more on a particular day than the exact same domain would on a different day (different bidders, different market conditions, different amounts of now available disposable income, etc).

Bad letters aren’t “bad” in every situation, as FAQs, an example provided by dezineright on Namepros elucidates and as sales of strong acronyms such as UK or RX in example reinforce.

To accurately appraise any 4 letter .com in a reseller environment (this is the only type of appraisal I believe in giving — nobody is qualified to tell you what an enduser will pay), you’d certainly need to know the name in question, it’s pronounceability and the desirability of the letters (including in other languages and how it’s desirability in foreign languages may influence it’s value to a predominantly English domaining population) and the desirability of the order in which they present themselves, the likelihood of finding an enduser, whether there’s any significant traffic or age which may complement it’s value, any significant collector value (may be influenced by rarity, pronounceability, or other characteristics such as extreme age, extremely premium letters, all vowels,…), what similar names have gone for recently (if this data is available), current trends and fads, the availability of comparable domains (more choice likely means less value),… There really are an infinitesimal amount of factors influencing the value of a particular domain on a particular day, and I’m sure a statistician could draw up another hundred I neglected to mention (eg. how might selling right at tax time influence domain valuation? Chances are that big domainers are paying in whereas smaller domainers may be getting some money back, could this have an effect?).

What’s in a Niche?

Yennah recently asked a question about picking a niche while domaining… It’s such a great question, I think I’ll give it a blogpost.

A niche could be domains of 4 letters or shorter length like me for example, or maybe it’s 3 letter .nets, or dictionary word .coms, or domains related to oil/energy. What’s important isn’t what you choose to invest in but how you choose to go about making your investment. Many newer domainers tend to “put a little money here, a little money there” — the end result being that they have a whole lot of money tied up in a whole lot of things, and understand a whole lot of nothing.

By focussing all your energy on a single niche (be it one of the examples above or be it something entirely different), you can focus all your energy on becoming an expert in that market and getting a better understanding on what things sell for.

If you know what you can get (on average) for any particular domain pre-purchase, domaining has very little risk. If you find buyers for your domains before you even purchase them, domaining has very little risk. If you broker domains for other people and split the profits, domaining has very little risk.

Alot of people seem to think domain names are a risky investment… It really need not be! Don’t approach domaining haphazardly, create your success – it all starts by controlling the level of risk you take and the best way to control that is by better understanding the niche you choose to invest in.

Selling Some Very Rare LLLL.coms

Last time I offered LLLL.coms for sale on 4 Letter Noob (back in January), the response was overwhelming, with over $15,000 in completed sales courtesy of readers. This time the domains up for auction are very exclusive triple letter LLLL.coms. Hope you find something you like! If you have something similar to what’s being listed for sale (must still be a triple letter), please feel free to send me an email to: reece (at) bqb.com . I’ll do my best to get back to you with an answer within 48 hours. For convenience, please list the lowest price you’d be willing to part with. I don’t haggle — it’ll be strictly yes/no.

All Prices are 100% Firm. Prices valid until May 07, 2008.

Payment method: Escrow.com (split fees)

Under $1000
PQPP $600 (2009 Godaddy)
UQUU $900 (2009 Godaddy)
CCCY $900 (2009 Godaddy)

$1000-$1500
FHFF $1000 (2009 Godaddy)
LLLX $1000 (2010 Godaddy)
BHHH $1400 (2011 ItsYourDomain.com)
FFPP $1400 (7/2008 Enom)
PLLP $1400 (12/2008 Enom)
QIII $1400 (11/2008 Fabulous)
QQQS $1400 (2010 Godaddy)

$1500-$2000
DRRR $1600 (2009 Fabulous)
GGGD $1600 (2010 ItsYourDomain)
TTTB $1600 (2009 Godaddy)
BBBP $1800 (2009 Enom)
MMMP $1800 (2009 Godaddy)

Over $2000
FFFO $2000 (2010 ItsYourDomain.com)
OOLL $2000 (Godaddy)
UOOO $2000 (2009 Fabulous)
DDDO $2700 (6/2008 DomainDiscover)
FAAA $3200 (2009 Godaddy)
LLLT $4000 (2010 ItsYourDomain)
IIIT $4000 (2009 ItsYourDomain)

To make a purchase, please post a message on this thread.

Alternatively, feel free to send me an email to: reece (at) bqb.com and we’ll setup an escrow from there.

LH.com STOLEN

Want another reason to stick to LLLL.coms instead of shorter domains? If corrupt corporations manage to reverse hijack your domain, you aren’t out $1M…

Michael Goldman from Domain Magnate has more on this.

To see community response (and utter outrage!), see Namepros.

I’m terribly saddened to see this happen and this does set a dangerous precedent for other valuable short domains (such as CVCVs). Filing a complaint is often cheaper than purchasing the domain and that’s what we see happen here…

Do Only Wealthy Domainers Go Far with Domaining?

My response to a recent question asked on Namepros follows.

New domainers generally want a “get rich quick” scheme (I refer to this as DN Journal Hypomanic Disorder). There never has been one folks.

Most top generics were regged pre-97. You can look at these guys as super lucky to get such a good name for cheap. I prefer to look at them as having amazing determination to renew these domains for 10+ Years. That’s not luck. They could have sold it all these years and chose to hold it until now. Some of the domains regged in the late 80s were near-worthless for an entire decade. Do you have it in you to renew your “worthless” domain for 10 years?

Imo, most of the people here wouldn’t be all that much better off even if they had gotten into domaining in 1988 instead of 2008. Who wouldn’t cave in to a $10,000 offer from CNET for your TV.com way back in the early-mid 90s before any of your friend even knew what an Internet was? You needed more than luck, you needed more than access to the information — You needed vision.

Nothing’s changed… Many domainers walked away with $10-$100k profit from very small investments in LLLL.coms pre-buyout. Vision. That was November 2007, not all that long ago… There will be more opportunities, there always are and always have been. Hindsight’s always 20/20 — it takes real balls to put your hard earned greenbacks on a hunch, but that’s what you’re going to need to do to hit it big nowadays.

Is it harder nowadays? Imho, no (coming from someone who’s been around for “awhile”). It’s never been easier to learn about domaining, there’s never been so many domain auctions, conferences, blogs, magazines, press coverage,… Back when I started, there wasn’t a Namepros and most people surfed the net with Yahoo, AltaVista, and Webcrawler :eek:

And you know what? I made more this year (already) than I ever made back then…

If you make a sound investment in domain names today and hold it for 15 years, you’ll most likely make out very well for yourself. With risk comes reward… There isn’t as much risk involved in buying an LLL.com today as there was in 2004 when I watched them on eBay go for a nickel on the dollar (this actually isn’t a metaphor!).

Past gains have been phenomenal… But since the Bust, it’s largely been a compounding effect. LLL.coms didn’t go from $500 to $10,000 overnight — they slowly went higher month by month, year by year. I was certain in ‘04 that paying $500 for QXZ-LLL.coms was insane! Vision. I didn’t see it then — I see it now.

My advice: Read, read, read. Learn as much as you can about this industry. Whether you choose to develop, handreg, or purchase aftermarket domains, pick a niche and stick to it. Nobody can possibly be an expert in all areas of domaining, so pick a niche and become an expert in that niche.

I was doing some WM work for a library a few years back which had the following inspirational poem on the wall:

The more you read, the more you know.
The more you know, the smarter you grow.
The smarter you grow, the stronger your voice,
When speaking your mind or making your choice.
(author: Jim Trelease)

I couldn’t agree more. Those are words to live by and certainly reflect my domaining journey…

Slow and steady wins the race. It might “take money to make money”, but saying “I can’t”, “I came too late”, “It’s too hard”, ad infinitum certainly isn’t doing anything but creating a negative environment that promotes and encourages failure.

Another LLLL.com Scam?

There’s another very large fraud investigation going on over at the other forum. Moderators over there have recommended people stay away from the following domains until it can be verified who the real owner is:

illu.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
neoo.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
bogy.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
veko.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
chah.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
mopi.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
admy.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jeef.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
skyfish.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtgame.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
konet.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtoy.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cdcm.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
keti.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
latt.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
xran.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
lave.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
anbu.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jasu.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
morr.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
acct.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
sibe.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jins.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
ftc.net  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14 Federal Trade Commision(Already has been SOLD)
microgreen.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14
gmeil.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmailcom.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmaii.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
frgoogle.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmile.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmill.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
wowmart.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
youworld.com  Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

3004.COM
DESIGNK.COM
DTWS.COM
GMDX.COM
HZHZ.COM
ICOZ.COM
JNSP.COM
REEX.COM
YESM.COM
GEHO.COM
WIHY.COM
SMSLIFE.COM
COJI.COM
OSSY.COM
MUKS.COM Ki
IZIP.COM

junto.com  Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
bestland.com  Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
uspace.com  Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
postdata.com  Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

achannel.com  eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
texo.com  eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
rentsale.com  eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
advision.com  eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
blak.com  eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

eeee.com  Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
egf.com  Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
openclub.com  Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
everygame.com  Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gns.net  Network Solutions,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
freesociety.com  Rebel.com Services.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cznet.com  register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
elli.com  register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gtoys.com  register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

I was interested in one of these domains and I’m aware that at least 2 other NPers were in negotiations over some of these names as well. I’d recommend putting off any purchases of any of the names listed above until management over there gets to the bottom of this. The whois details are updated on these domains as per the dates the original poster suggests they were stolen and the current owner seems to be in a hurry to offload these domains, which seems somewhat questionable at best.

New Price Guide is Out!

While CVCVs continue to appreciate (largely on the low end), the rest of the upper end market has stabilized over the last couple weeks, posting unnoticeable gains in the pronounceable sector and a small loss on the quad premium front. The lower end market continues to struggle, however the largest fall this time was not at the very bottom, but at the 25th through 50th percentiles (representing double premiums and mainly lower quality triple premiums). Triple premiums as a whole saw noticeable declines with the only real winner in the triple premium bunch coming out this time being the letter “W”. I’ll be coming out with a letter quality guide later this week to better help determine what LLLL.coms are worth beyond the general factors mentioned in this guide. 

The next update (on May 8th) will see a new security measure put into place — rolling 30 day averages (excluding the highest 10% of reported sales to prevent data skewing) and 30 day median prices across the different percentiles covered. This should reduce the impact a few bad days can have on reported data,  as well as significantly decrease the likelihood that a big buyer could manipulate the prices 4 Letter Noob reports by buying out a particular market or forcing people to pay a certain artificially created price.